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I was in the Sherlock Holmes pub on Northumberland Street recently, and I was examining the study closely (as one does). Something in particular that hadn't been there the last time I was there drew my eye. There was a framed photograph of Oscar Wilde, accompanied by his card on Holmes' mantlepiece.
Anyone care to venture a theory why?
One I have come up with all ready is to assume they were at college together (taking the arguments for Holmes having gone to Oxford at true) but if so, Holmes said Victor Trevor was the only friend he made at college. Why have a picture of Wilde on the mantlepiece and not Trevor?
Was he nervous of admitting that he had been friends with Wilde given the scandal surrounding Wilde's name at the time? If so, why the photograph in plain view?
Shall I mention the theory that has been crossing all slashers minds from the beginning of this post and say they were lovers?
Anybody any ideas?
Oscar and Sherlock? Query
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 10:42 PM
Library Mouse, on Aug 21 2007, 07:11 PM, said:
I was in the Sherlock Holmes pub on Northumberland Street recently, and I was examining the study closely (as one does). Something in particular that hadn't been there the last time I was there drew my eye. There was a framed photograph of Oscar Wilde, accompanied by his card on Holmes' mantlepiece.
Anyone care to venture a theory why?
Anyone care to venture a theory why?
*raises hand*
Quite easy, my good Mouse! It's from Conan Doyle's remarkable but oft forgotten tale, A Scandal in Being Ernest. Holmes gets a suprise visit from the Hereditary King of Chutney, who begs him to recover a scandelous photograph of him and his erstwhile lover, Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde, knowing that such a thing would jeopardize his claims to the throne. (Amongst other things.) Holmes then attempts to deceive the wiley Mr. Wilde with a number of clever tricks and amusing disguises that have him dressing up as all kinds of queer chaps. In the end, of course, Oscar outsmarts the great detective with subtle cunning and a giant jar of honey. And... like all people who bother and titillate the great Sherlock Holmes, he desired to keep the likeness of Mr. Wilde on his mantlepiece.
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:00 PM
sherlocky-cookies, on Aug 21 2007, 10:42 PM, said:
*raises hand*
Quite easy, my good Mouse! It's from Conan Doyle's remarkable but oft forgotten tale, A Scandal in Being Ernest. Holmes gets a suprise visit from the Hereditary King of Chutney, who begs him to recover a scandelous photograph of him and his erstwhile lover, Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde, knowing that such a thing would jeopardize his claims to the throne. (Amongst other things.) Holmes then attempts to deceive the wiley Mr. Wilde with a number of clever tricks and amusing disguises that have him dressing up as all kinds of queer chaps. In the end, of course, Oscar outsmarts the great detective with subtle cunning and a giant jar of honey. And... like all people who bother and titillate the great Sherlock Holmes, he desired to keep the likeness of Mr. Wilde on his mantlepiece.
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
Quite easy, my good Mouse! It's from Conan Doyle's remarkable but oft forgotten tale, A Scandal in Being Ernest. Holmes gets a suprise visit from the Hereditary King of Chutney, who begs him to recover a scandelous photograph of him and his erstwhile lover, Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde, knowing that such a thing would jeopardize his claims to the throne. (Amongst other things.) Holmes then attempts to deceive the wiley Mr. Wilde with a number of clever tricks and amusing disguises that have him dressing up as all kinds of queer chaps. In the end, of course, Oscar outsmarts the great detective with subtle cunning and a giant jar of honey. And... like all people who bother and titillate the great Sherlock Holmes, he desired to keep the likeness of Mr. Wilde on his mantlepiece.
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
Oh, Cookies... *facepalm*
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Posted 21 August 2007 - 11:14 PM
sherlocky-cookies, on Aug 22 2007, 12:42 AM, said:
*raises hand*
Quite easy, my good Mouse! It's from Conan Doyle's remarkable but oft forgotten tale, A Scandal in Being Ernest. Holmes gets a suprise visit from the Hereditary King of Chutney, who begs him to recover a scandelous photograph of him and his erstwhile lover, Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde, knowing that such a thing would jeopardize his claims to the throne. (Amongst other things.) Holmes then attempts to deceive the wiley Mr. Wilde with a number of clever tricks and amusing disguises that have him dressing up as all kinds of queer chaps. In the end, of course, Oscar outsmarts the great detective with subtle cunning and a giant jar of honey. And... like all people who bother and titillate the great Sherlock Holmes, he desired to keep the likeness of Mr. Wilde on his mantlepiece.
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
Quite easy, my good Mouse! It's from Conan Doyle's remarkable but oft forgotten tale, A Scandal in Being Ernest. Holmes gets a suprise visit from the Hereditary King of Chutney, who begs him to recover a scandelous photograph of him and his erstwhile lover, Oscar Fingal O'Flahertie Wills Wilde, knowing that such a thing would jeopardize his claims to the throne. (Amongst other things.) Holmes then attempts to deceive the wiley Mr. Wilde with a number of clever tricks and amusing disguises that have him dressing up as all kinds of queer chaps. In the end, of course, Oscar outsmarts the great detective with subtle cunning and a giant jar of honey. And... like all people who bother and titillate the great Sherlock Holmes, he desired to keep the likeness of Mr. Wilde on his mantlepiece.
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
This theory is obviously the most likely and logical.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 06:09 AM
sherlockian, on Aug 22 2007, 10:58 AM, said:
i almost fell from my chair after reading that.
I managed to stifle my laughter (reading this at work, on lunch)...until the last line. Then I just exploded, prompting very funny looks all round the office. Again.
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Posted 22 August 2007 - 08:01 PM
sherlocky-cookies, on Aug 22 2007, 05:42 AM, said:
Watson said that he was always referred to as "That Beautiful Bastard of an Irishman" after that.
Alright, we now know what Watson called him, but here's a poser:
Holmes kept Irene Adler's photograph in his desk drawer and called her "THE Woman", soooooo
Holmes kept Wilde's photograph on the mantlepiece. What did he call HIM?
"To Sherlock Holmes, Wilde was THE (fill in the blank)"
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Posted 04 September 2007 - 10:48 PM
a_lemon_tree_my_dear_watson, on Sep 4 2007, 04:18 PM, said:
This is pretty much a useless post, but should that be Oscar and Sherlock, Queery? 
"To Sherlock Holmes, Wilde was THE dramaturge with all that gorgeous blue china, God bless him"
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Posted 05 September 2007 - 03:02 AM
a_lemon_tree_my_dear_watson, on Sep 4 2007, 10:18 PM, said:
This is pretty much a useless post, but should that be Oscar and Sherlock, Queery?
Please don't hurt me.
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"To Sherlock Holmes, Wilde was THE dramaturge with all that gorgeous blue china, God bless him"
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 06:51 AM
Violet Hunter, on Sep 25 2007, 08:17 PM, said:
Oscar Wilde is THE MAN.
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
*nearly chokes when trying to muffle laughter* Hey, I'm supposed to be silent in the computer room here...
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Posted 26 September 2007 - 07:27 AM
Erika, on Sep 26 2007, 06:51 PM, said:
Hey, I'm supposed to be silent in the computer room here...
that's hard to do when you are reading HN posts.
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Posted 29 September 2007 - 05:04 AM
Violet Hunter, on Sep 25 2007, 08:17 PM, said:
Oscar Wilde is THE MAN.
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
That's great, Violet!
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Posted 03 October 2007 - 05:15 PM
Off-topic a bit, but I remembered this thread, so here you are...
Just saw a replay of the wonderful film Wilde with Stephen Fry, Jude Law, et al; I love Wilde's works and know his history, but would like to read a comprehensive bio on the man. Can anyone recommend a reliable, factual book?
Cheers...
Just saw a replay of the wonderful film Wilde with Stephen Fry, Jude Law, et al; I love Wilde's works and know his history, but would like to read a comprehensive bio on the man. Can anyone recommend a reliable, factual book?
Cheers...
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Posted 04 December 2007 - 04:34 PM
Violet Hunter, on Sep 25 2007, 12:17 PM, said:
Oscar Wilde is THE MAN.
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
"You da man, Holmes!"
"No, YOU da man, Oscar!"
I now have hilarious mental images of OW and SH wearing big gold chains and high-fiving one another!
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 12:13 AM
Reichenbach, on Dec 5 2007, 04:34 AM, said:
I now have hilarious mental images of OW and SH wearing big gold chains and high-fiving one another!
OMG. i am going to have nightmares tonight.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 11:37 AM
sherlockian, on Dec 5 2007, 07:13 AM, said:
OMG. i am going to have nightmares tonight.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 01:50 PM
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Just saw a replay of the wonderful film Wilde with Stephen Fry, Jude Law, et al; I love Wilde's works and know his history, but would like to read a comprehensive bio on the man. Can anyone recommend a reliable, factual book?
I just watched this movie recently and I agree, it is wonderful. I was very impressed with all the performances, especially that of Stephen Fry. So much so, it made me have one of those "What's he up to these days?" moments with Mr. Fry and found tons of episodes of QI on YouTube. I think it's my new favorite show. HI-LAR-I-OUS!
In regards to a Wilde bio, I know there is a specific volume the writers of the film Wilde used as a reference, I will find out what that is. It might be at least a good bio to start with since you are familiar with the film...?
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